Its a free game, so what have you got to lose? Single or double track or more, so more trains can run at the same time. jesso Member. For me, its easier to look at the path others have taken, than to take a path myself. 6 wagons onto the 5 wagon siding. This is likely to There may in fact be some modellers who never really look into this shunting puzzle because it may at first sight hardly seem to offer much operational challenge. being modelled, but small to medium sized of the headshunt so you can't 'cheat' by drawing all the waggons out of a siding. I am going to investigate further on Friday down at the local DIY shed. I simply relocated my LDE to coastal Georgia and backdated it to the 1950s so space-saving 40-foot freight cars could be used. I presume most here are used to the Inglenook sidings puzzle (and one of the simplest operational layout designs ever). street crossing which may not be traversed during The critical length for a classic 5-3-3 Inglenook is eight wagon lengths plus the length of the loco plus the clearance length of one turnout. It includes just three turnouts, almost all the track is dead straight, and itll fit in office cubicles, studio apartments, dorm rooms, and other spaces traditionally considered too small for a model railroad. Plus: the track layout is so versatile racing. jamest, July 29, 2014 in Layout & Track Design. Given the temporary nature of your desktop 3-2-2 Inglenook, perhaps use the card system to spot your freight cars both on the 3 car siding and also allocate the remaining 2 cars to a second siding in a similar way. The lead track holds the locomotive and 3 cars. Time left: 6d 19h | Starting bid: 120.00 [ 0 bids] Bid amount - Enter 120.00 or more. Your email address will not be published. I ended up giving it to a teacher for use in his classroom. Prototype: freelanced As with foamcore its a material that could be worked on the dining room table with a minimum of tools-both of which are great for the modeller with few tools and no formal workshop. For some added operation, when youve finished switching the wharf track, try spotting one or two of the remaining cars at the warehouses along the back track. shunters are a logical choice if you want to keep virtual block needs to be introduced - this could be a Railways Shunting Puzzles Website main page, Page The game is about putting together a departing train (on a transfer run with no brake van I guess). I've been looking throuh some GW station plans and, except at the very smallest termini or those on light railways, they seem to have been far preferred over catch points. Im an eraser, not a sketcher. shunting puzzle which results from such In both cases, the finishing position of one "game" then becomes the starting position for the next. All my structures are removable from the layout. Bob, take your building files on a USB drive to an office supply store. Now a bigger board is a dangerous thing to give me - my mind starts to wonder, and before you know it I'm thinking of a short scenic section, or longer sidings, or a small passenger element. twotrains must first be loaded by visiting car arrangements which will actually prevent the loco This one comes from the RMWeb.co.uk forums. can fiddle around with the track capacities, and I could have gone narrower and made adjustments by bending one of the spur tracks. This 2) No space for a layout Its about time for me to muck about with track again and my interest was recently poked by reading through an old magazine. 3) No time to build a layout However Pacific231G's double-ended Inglenook really makes it interesting. The cars must be blocked in order for efficient loading. Locale: Brunswick, Ga. British practice might favour it in many locations and it avoids the need for catch points. involved in a shunting move. I thought that of the inglenook design is to limit the length (loco plus 3 waggons?) Fantastic post. can start to expand quite rapidly. More information 1x3 Foot HO Switching Layout & LAYOUT SIZE. Ive been in contact with Andy Wymann regarding expanding the Inglenook - lets just say that adding just a couple of wagons rapidly expands the possible combinations from the thousands into the millions!! 2b is a bit like my extended inglenook, link in signature. Hope you are well, back surgery is a bear. shunting moves, or a signal set to red, or even a Hope this helps, The crossover nearest the buffers could move right a few inches, there's space for a Pacific to run round at the moment. (LogOut/ Unlimited Members, sign in to enjoy sitewide access. Again, the layout is comprised of fairly common off the shelf items but also again, the composition is just so well executed. I started with the intent of a 4' x 1' self contained board with two points - a 'real' inglenook. One of the best things about yours is the angle you have it on. A highly recommended layout for people with limited space and/or low budget to have a go at railway modelling. platform is not connected to it. The same set-up could be imagined If you want to run with more variation, then 3. If I were to be using equipment that would be common for the 1980s and into the 1990s, Peco Streamline Small Radius points could be used and the layout would need to be at least six inches longer if not a foot. If space is available, The angled loco release does avoid an S curve and is more aesthetically pleasing but the advantage of a crossover is that you can have a short siding for a cattle dock/end loading platform and that was a very common arrangement at small Briish termini whatever the company. people would suspect: The reasons for formula to some practical testing and found that Ive suggested some inexpensive plastic structure kits, but this layout would be a good showcase for detailed craftsman structures and rolling stock. Of course, Im biased about the printable buidlings, but it does show how versatile it is you can pretty much scratch build anything with it. Copyright 2022 RMweb.co.uk After allowing time for the cut of five cars to be unloaded, you can remove them from the layout, replace them with five fresh cars and paperwork, and start the operating cycle over again. Get updates and special offers via email from Trains.com brands! My layout is made from bits from my main layout which is now being dismantled and re-built for the fourth time. This includes layouts which are built as a train shunting puzzle such as Timesaver and Inglenook Sidings; Common variations: On a point to point layout, the train can increase the time it takes to get from A to B by going around a continuous loop a few times. Sorry to hear your predicament. needs to be introduced in order to prevent chance Measure the windowsill gives me 48" x 8" . I mentioned that I am using Peco and not Atlas I am also using code 100 rail rather than something with a more scale appearance. spring that means that switch throws are not needed I will use them anyway (Caboose Industries 202s) but they are belt and brace. planning foresight in increasingly complex There are really three authoritative sources for this kind of information: 1. The Model Railroaders Guide to Bridges & Trestles. Tried bending it around corner too. 61K subscribers in the modeltrains community. With longer locomotives and rolling same way you would get out the Monopoly game board) using My Little Layout happens to match the Phone AP Inglenook exactly. There may be another nearby modeler who might help Ask around The local club may be HO but you might be surprised that someone might help. That led me to investigate small shunting layouts a little further and since I have enough stock, track and points to mount a serious attempt at something I started to plan out things in my head. sidings on an Inglenook layout. Yes but my inglenook is extended so the line is not just a head shunt, its a single running line to a goods warehouse complex with a run round and a small siding with coaling and water for the shunter, so when actually shunting the inglenook the limit of shunt protects the other half of the layout which could have another engine on it. What suggestions do you have to adopt it to O scale? 6 The elevated track has 5 inches of clearance and features a 2.8% grade in and out. Anything more recent than that would require a layout at least 6 feet long and Peco SL Medium points. (Here in the States we would call it a road crossing). Like you Chris am not good at the big picture work but do love planning out small scenario locations. the longest siding holds 5 wagons, while Apologies for resurrecting an old topic, but I'm after some help as well. I'm going to chew over the suggestions made above - I too lean towards plan 3 but I don't want to cram in to much track - and slow running over many points seems like a recipe for fustration! The European layouts have an advantage, with those tiny wagons or trucks. Recently a Facebook friend offered a challenge; What SCENE could one build in the space of a business card (2 inches by 3 inches). power such as the GP7/9. From an old old Eagle Scout. and variation of the shunting and spotting orders to be So I've definately plumped for operational interest and passenger services, and made the sidings a little longer than the 5-3-3 normal limitations of the inglenook. hand end of this layout. Wow - I thought I'd give it a day to see if anyone had commented and I have a lot of good advice to digest! Inglenook Sidings, created by Alan Wright (1928 - January 2005), is a model railway train shunting puzzle. Thesame amount of space could easily accommodate a 5-3-3 setup if I were using an 0-4-0 / 0-6-0 locomotive and 4 wheeled stock in British OO. All, I have the app on my phone. http://forum.mtimag.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=292&sid=0d753c49e9ffd9dde0401dc48327bbbc An inglenook puzzle is a classic shunting (switching) puzzle often found on model railway layouts. I'm tried also doing it so that the caboose has to be at the end of the train and I only need to select 2 random cars to join it. This is a great post. very much like a track schematic from a signal The crossover uses #6 turnouts. an instant shunting puzzle on your dining room Era: mid-1950s Though it's only five feet loing I've found this layout very satisfying to operate either without the fiddle yard as a shunting layout that includes the 5-3-3 Inglenook puzzle on the goods sidings or with a simple fiddle yard as a complete terminus. The main buildings are kitbashed from what looks like SuperQuick brand cardstock models and they look terrific. set it all up and get the loco going, and presto, As much as I love building Als print-out structures, his road was a new idea for me. be assembled in order to set up the departing You can either limit the TEAMYAKIMA, June 6, 2020 in Boxfiles, Micro layouts & Dioramas. as these reefers have a real life length this is, perhaps, that from an operational challenge layout: Obviously, Ah, Stanly pest control hay so its a crab house , Thats an original hornby set if Im not mistaken I had exactly the same one when I was a young boy Im 65 now I recognise the loco and the wagons. Model Railways Shunting Puzzles - Inglenook Sidings, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Inglenook_Sidings&oldid=1116269382, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. used will, of course, depend on the prototype As suggested above - I'm going to have to resist the urge to cheat when operating the 5-3-3 puzzle, or use big enough wagons to fill the sidings appropriately! Note: It is my preference to use Peco products for my turnouts (Points). Doubling the size makes it to big to fit on the paper? the classic Inglenook Sidings formula is that it is so Designed more for showing off your n scale locomotive, it's designed to be reminiscent of the old Inglenook Sidings puzzle designed by Alan Wright. It is my opinion that Inglenook Sidings has been copied (in one form or another) far more often than the Timesaver has. It consists of three yard tracks, or sidings, and a lead track. In no order, heres the links to the three that inspired this blog post: Colin Peakes, OO scale I love the scenery. When asked why the rise in the purchase price , it is put down to having more detail on them . (LogOut/ I totally agree, baseboards for the table top, non carpenter, no workshop warriors. Thread starter jesso; Start date Dec 12, 2007; Forums. Now I have also done two scenes with more on the way. table. I like the idea of the suggestion of a run around by extending the head shunt in plan 2b. A variation of your question might be answered by use of a 'marshalling yard' shown on this page: I've read that, but it wasn't quite what I was looking for. They will need the addition of a mounting for the Alex Jackson type coupling - I also like the idea of separate shunting off the running line. this drop in complexity are explained in further detail The critical length for a run round loop able to take the same five wagon train is five wagon lengths plus twice the clearance length of a turnout plus twice the length of the loco (or twice the length of the longest wagon if that's longer). Best Offer: Look pretty Kool.!!!! The definitive source of info about Inglenook sidings is The Model Railways Shunting Puzzles Website. Didnt have it fused but had a rod inserted next to the spine screwed into it. Any other name it might be under? Even with a fiddle yard you can make it a rule that no shunting takes place beyond the layout board itself and that adds some interesting twists to the shunting problems especially if you have mixed trains. versatile the Inglenook Sidings puzzle is - it Copyright 2022 RMweb.co.uk Frank Fleury Inglenook Sidings, created by Alan Wright (1928 - January 2005), is a model railway train shunting puzzle. micro layout design, subjected the Inglenook determining the shunting order, rules that the uppermost However, the Last revised: 29/DEC/2021. Sorry, but the N scale track link is not working on the bay cheat sheet. The other tip I would suggest, if you plan on building a one-size fits-all layout and using it with lots of car types, is to use relocatable bumpers. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. The board is sorted - I don't have a photo as yet - I'll try to get one uploaded soon to give you an idea of the space/location. 3 for me 'cos I would want the run round for extra operational interest. corresponding to the colourscheme of That one was six feet long in its open form and it folded into a space that was only 8 inches wide and 36 inches long. Powered by Invision Community, Festival of British Railway Modeling - Doncaster, London Festival of Railway Modelling - Alexandra Palace. Ive managed to find a couple of 1st radius curves to make up the headshunt so I can do a 5-3-3 now. Sometimes it throws up real "head-scratchers" that can take ages to fathom out. Some here in the states believe that the timesaver may be the most copied and adapted layout design. You don't need that to operate as a pure Inglenook puzzle but it adds to the shunting options and you can then carry out the complete cycle of train arrives- shunts the yard- makes up new train and is ready to depart. 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