Discussion in Body Restoration started by bmeyer Mar 19. The Crossfire line is designed for overall refinishing only. The CrossFIRE basecoat is a low cost alternative basecoat line with thousands of similar color matches to the original vehicle color. Learn More Products and Systems Martin Senour offers a product solution for all markets Learn More :thumbup: I assume she only gets to bring you the damaged mixing components and you are on your own as to how to make a base out of it. Primers OK..paint marginal. 0000016871 00000 n 0000002761 00000 n the "Super Gloss" uses 4:1 -- product number is 15350 the "High Solids" uses 8 of CC3500 to 4 of CLV reduced to 1 of hardener. What little painting I have done, I used Martin Senour and crossfire and absolutely love the stuff. Martin Senour develops, manufactures, and distributes a complete portfolio of high quality coatings and supplies for all PB&E marketing segments, including; Collision Repair, Restoration & Custom, Fleet & Commercial, Manufacturing & Industrial, and Farm & Agricultural segments. Napa martin senour acrylic urethane Also, why HOK base and not Martin Senour? All the product data sheets for Martin Senour products can be found. CROSSFIRE National Rule Compliant Urethane Enamel is a low cost alternative acrylic urethane enamel line with thousands of similar color matches to the original vehicle's color. My personal belief is that the Crossfire is just thinned down Tec Base. MST: 0313044100 cn tuyn gp 1 nhn vin K To, C nh i! 0000019624 00000 n IMO the Crossfire CC5000 sprays the best but you will need three coats to get the coverage of the 8615,8639 and 8637. C 1 nh u t ngoi Tho lun k ton, Ryobi P620 One+ 18v Cordless Paint Spray Gun, LANGMASTER tuyn gp v tr K TON CHI PH: Crossfire is good for primers and clear coats, but I would tend to use the TEC/base on colors that might have trouble covering/matching such as Yellow, Red, Pink, Green, Blue. Click here to purchase Tamco Primers and Clearcoats, Martin Senour Users - Crossfire vs Tec/Base. Paint Mixing Colors Automotive Refinishing Crossfire. CrossFIRE National Rule Gallon. Where I work we can be running one machine with three packaging lines and be applying three different brand labels on the product coming out the other end. I use a ton of Crossfire on stuff where color match isn't an issue. Sep 5, 2008 What you have is lacquer primer and lacquer thinner. 571 0 obj <> endobj 0000006869 00000 n Get deals on automotive parts, truck parts and more. Specifications. BondoKing's Profile; JavaScript is disabled. It looks great. xref Axalta Increases ColorNet User Productivity with Integrated Video Tutorial System Polyvance Releases New 6204 Hot Spot Cordless Plastic Stapler. Come join the discussion about restoration, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! I use that thumb print as a guide to see how clear is setting up, I'm not saying go out and press on 1hr old clear, simply press on it after it is "supposed" to be dry and use it as a guage. In short, the color match is better with Tec/Base (I am told) and coverage is slightly better. English I haven't used any of the new Tec Clears. The new 5010/5020 clears use 1 common hardener and the same reducers as Crossfire base but you have to pick a clear to suit what your spraying. Madison, WI. Hi guys, I purchased a gallon of Martin Senour Crossfire (NAPA) 5.0 Urethane Enamel, single stage. Martin Senour develops, manufactures, and distributes a complete portfolio of high quality coatings and supplies for all PB&E marketing segments, including; Collision Repair, Restoration & Custom, Fleet & Commercial, Manufacturing & Industrial, and Farm & Agricultural segments. 0000038022 00000 n Cross/FIRE IP Performance Urethane Single Stage . I really like that one! 0000018345 00000 n It is quite a bit cheaper--$40.49 per quart for Martin Senour Acrylic Enamel versus $16.49 for the CF. I have used the white base as a ground coat to help with coverage as well. Martin Senour Automotive Finishes Find your Rod & Restoration Color With over 200 custom and restoration colors to choose from, we've made finding the perfect color for your restoration project easy! Martin Senour Paint Products ensure that you will get a high quality, consistent finish on every vehicle. First lets talk about single stage paints. I know you know your stuff Barry, why is there a preference for some mixing ratios? 0000041773 00000 n Great Job!!! The CC5000 would print for days whereas most of the others wouldn't print the next day except for maybe 8888, that one is a little slower than the others. I just did this 71 Super Beetle last Thursday using the Crossfire Base/Clear. Crossfire 50 single stage should mix. The PRO Body Filler series is formulated with an advanced proprietary resin blend and adhesion booster to provide maximum adhesion to galvanized bodypanels aluminum and steel offering a premium solution for a variety of markets such as collision repair manufacturing walk-in and many more. 0000002734 00000 n Kim tra cc h Vic lm k ton, Defelsko Positest Dft Combo Electronic Paint Thickness Gauge, Trong group mnh c bc no rnh ng t s ko . Can't comment on that. The Martin Senour website does not show the mixing ratio for this specific paint, does anyone know offhand? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The paint guys won't be in tomorrow. I believe this is the appropriate tech sheet for what you are using. CROSSFIRE National Rule Compliant Urethane Enamel is primarily an overall refinish line. Hi guys, I purchased a gallon of Martin Senour Crossfire (NAPA) 5.0 Urethane Enamel, single stage. 0000002897 00000 n General Discussion. Martin Senour offers a solution for all applications, and for all levels of production. Terrific thread! 0000035372 00000 n 0000041548 00000 n I started using Martin Senour paints mainly because I have a very good relationship with the NAPA store and know that the paint guy there knows his stuff and is usually very helpful. Store will contact you when your order is ready for pickup. The basecoat is primarily an overall refinish line. Theo TT200, mt s ti khon thay i, vy vay ngn hn ngn hng tr, cc anh ch i, em c 1 vn nh anh ch gip. English From the paint booth to the office, Martin Senour is your full service partner. 0000013570 00000 n Make yourself at homeread, ask and answer! All the product data sheets for Martin Senour products can be found here. CROSS/FIRE: Paint Product Application: Enamel Sealer . Click here to purchase Tamco Primers and Clearcoats, Martin Senour Crossfire 5.0 Urethane mix ratio -- not on web. JavaScript is disabled. We extensively reviewed the site experience and got feedback from regular users to create a site with optimal search and navigation capabilities. It looks really bright! I did a 69 Mustang for a friend who bought the crossfire base clear a few years back. My only concern is that I can not find a very bright orange with them. Martin Senour automotive paint training courses are designed to provide hands-on knowledge in a variety of areas that are of direct interest to the automotive painting professional. The advanced technology in these products. Awesome Job!!! Crossfire Martin Senour Paint Mixer, Hardener, Reducer, Sealer, Toner (GALCF225, Metallic Balancer) 0000009897 00000 n I think it is just a slick way to market a cheaper product by pulling the technology from the main line. 0000029310 00000 n 0000011048 00000 n Martinsr, I guess I am just skeptical about products whenever marketing executives are involved. As the saying goes better living through chemistry Martin Senour Paints has created an alternative to complete rust removal and instead turned to rust conversion and coating. Their single stage has covered the few times I have used it and is fine for reshooting panels for OEM repairs or junk like that on stuff like old vans. Thanks for the quick replies and great information. In this video Kevin Tetz explains Mix Ratios and how to properly mix car paint when spraying your next project vehicle. Martin Senour offers a product solution for all markets, Stay up to date on the latest news from Martin Senour, Fleet & Manufacturing Specification Guide. 0000048393 00000 n Click here to purchase Tamco Primers and Clearcoats, Martin Senour Crossfire 5.0 Urethane mix ratio -- not on web. Vic , Bn no cn t vn k ton , BCTC, ch k s, phn mm bo him, ho n in t Tho lun k ton, House Of Crafts Creative Glass Painting Kit, Painted Gray Kitchen Cabinets Before And After, Cc anh ch cho e hi cht, em lm k ton bn hng Taxi. startxref I started using Martin Senour paints mainly because I have a very good relationship with the NAPA store and know that the paint guy there knows his stuff and is usually very helpful. 0000040853 00000 n I was told by the guy who runs the local automotive paint supply that this is a good paint for a DIY. . 625 0 obj <>stream This is fresh from the booth. CrossFIRE National Rule Quart Basecoat. I was used it a couple of times. Martin Senour offers a product solution for all markets. Brand: CROSS/FIRE: Container Size: 1 qt (US) Paint Product Application: Spray . If you paint an overall with Crossfire and have to panel match it later you can as long as you use crossfire for the match (In other words it matches itself but not the factory finish). I use that thumb print as a guide to see how clear is setting up, I'm not saying go out and press on 1hr old clear, simply press on it after it is "supposed" to be dry and use it as a guage. WIth Tec Base you get a can of thick paint that you add a basecoat stabilizer to (milky looking stuff /not reducer) that mixes 1:1. Read 5607 times More in this category. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Prism M Single Stage Color 60 Martin Senour Auto Martin Senour Paints 109 6 Cascade Green Precisely Matched For Paint And Spray Paint Martin Senour Paints 44 4 Vanilla Cream Precisely Matched For Paint And Spray Paint Paint water paint sprayer paint strainer thinner face mask safety goggles test board and sprayer tips. Tec/Base is better in every way except price, and with the better coverage and a 1:1 mix ratio instead of 2:1 you probably can get about the same coverage out of 2 qts of Tec/Base that you would get out of a gallon of Crossfire. Third car I've done with it and I like it better every time I use it! Make yourself at homeread, ask and answer! Thanks. Please call store at 425 823-2251 Buying Options. There is a huge difference. Best clear over Martin Senour TEC/Base? RustProof MD coatings have one purpose to stop rust. 0000038726 00000 n I'm restoring an Oliver 88 and was wondering if this stuff would work. of Ford Blue in MS the other day along with a gal. 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The primers seem fine although I heard pro's complain about the epoxy (I twas part # cph400 or something like that) being too slow drying for them. I am geting ready to put down their epoxy primer. Thanks for the quick replies and great information. Only difference I ever saw between CC5000 and the older high end clears = 8639, 8615, 8637,8888.. is the amount of time it takes to stop printing. This seems strange to me.. I have a few cars I am working on from fixing up a daily driver to restoring a 68 Road Runner. You are using an out of date browser. 10,400. The camaro is HOK cinnamon pearl. Get ready by preparing you tools. 0000007113 00000 n 0000006441 00000 n 0000006707 00000 n 0000007563 00000 n 0000004081 00000 n CN TUYN NHN VIN K TON 0000015677 00000 n M T CNG VIC: Just to follow up, the Crossfire covered just fine. The CC5000 would print for days whereas most of the others wouldn't print the next day except for maybe 8888, that one is a little slower than the others. CrossFIRE is a low cost high quality coatings system for use in facilities specializing in high volume cosmetic repair or fleet refinish. As far as I can tell Crossfire is just thinned down Tec/Base with a lower price! On the front fender to see how it sands and it sands and buffs great. Additionally, Martin Senour has a full line of colors across all Martin Senour brands and systems to meet any refinish need. Thanks! As far as I can tell Crossfire is just thinned down Tec/Base with a lower price! The orange in the picture is HOK tangelo pearl. Post a reply. Martin Senour automotive paint training courses are designed to provide hands-on knowledge in a variety of areas that are of direct interest to the automotive painting professional. I did a 69 Mustang for a friend who bought the crossfire base clear a few years back. Trong nhm mnh c ai tng lm k ton cho sam sung k?? Single stage paints are a stand alone type of paint. Pricing is temporarily unavailable online for the part. So essentially you are getting the paint cheaper because it has way less pigment in it. The high end TEC/Base has better coverage also. 0000022086 00000 n Primers OK.paint marginal. Only difference I ever saw between CC5000 and the older high end clears = 8639, 8615, 8637,8888.. is the amount of time it takes to stop printing. Thanks! Click on the link to the products you are using. It's "good enough" for not so fussy work. All the product data sheets for Martin Senour products can be found here. Looks like I'll using Tec/Base for my other projects as I'm looking at silver and metalic red for those and thus far haven't necessarily been able to concur my fight with metalics so any help the Tec/Base can give me might be worth the extra cost. I'm new to painting and didn't realize the terminology. CrossFIRE National Rule Gallon Basecoat. Love the color choice and flame shapes. It does negate some of the cost savings though. 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