I tried this simple solution you provided and it worked awesome. Thank you for your terrific post. You will now need to restart the Pilot as before. I dont know if this will last or not but it got us a reprieve as were hosting my daughters wedding shower in 2 days. In any event, my thanks to all of you who suggested steps to take in this matter. What is top left pin and the top right pin you arereferring to, while holdingcircuit board still inside the controllerassembly and facing towards me which corner are youreferring to, can you please give me some details or a picture thatwould be great. Holy Crap DB! They have a manual shut off. NEVER TO BE PURCHASED AGAIN. I was successful in clearing the fault code from my Honeywell WV8840B1109 Supply Valve Controller simply by utilizing the single jumper wire method as described in the post from CrankyTenants. Thank you for posting this ! As many others have suggested, perhaps this is the event which started the fail process? I followed the last paragraph instructions (what i did take off the cover.) and everything seems to be in working order again with one caveat: when I reattached the front cover with the 3-wire connector unplugged and lit the pilot, I got a 5-flash error (indicating that there was a sensor failure) rather than the 7-flash error. controller). Keep the knob pressed in until the Pilot valve opens (a click sound and the status light starts blinking on the circuit board). Good luck, and be sure to write Whirlpool and tell them their tank design valve is a piece of crap. Thank you all for your help. You will need two clip leads about 2 feet long each(like from Radio Shack I used a black lead for negative (-) and red lead for positive(+)) and be able to clip onto a 1.5 volt battery (I used a weak rechargeable battery with tabs ( you only need about .5 volt DC actually). Now the white one does NOT clear, in my experience, by the posted this will clear the 4-blips of death error. I am digging out the old board I have positioned for disposal. I completely drained the tank and had a little sediment, not much since I have a whole house filter on the incoming supply. limit (Temperature Cut-Out [TCO]) function. Took a wire and touched the two pins where the thermo plugs in. Fixed it last night and still have hot water this morning. Glad you got it back going. Its two pins go through the board. I am so happy that the company replaced it for you. This item: WV8840B1109 Gas Valve for Honeywell Whirlpool Water Heaters - WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042 $429.99 Fixitshop Water Heater Pilot Assembely Includes Pilot Thermocouple and Tubing Natural 24" $14.99 Water Heater Pilot Assembely Includes Pilot Thermocouple and Tubing LP Propane $14.99 Product information Technical Details Additional Information Interestingly though, I tried this method two times and each time it didnt appear to have worked as I continued to receive a 4 flash fault code. Not sure if these links will come thru, however I took a few pictures of my replacement. I wish I had known this a few months ago. The led light will go off and the pilot will shut off as well. NOTE: the 7-flash error seemed to last for quite awhile but eventually went to a normal single flash. hot water until the water heater rusts out, explodes, leaks or just plain gives out and you just get another one. Yeah!!!! My Honeywell WV8860B1309 failed after 2 years. OMG!! I researched the internet (many hours!) I my case, I need to deliver about 130 degrees to get a high enough temp at my faucets. Is replacing just the inner board still a valid option? The WT8840 water heater control from Resideo is designed for use in standing pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. I did do a full drain and it was mostly small white particles which is probably from my water softener. Function: The gas valve is a low voltage control (usually 24 VAC) that allow gas into the combustion chamber. like this http://www.midlandhardware.com/157481.html?gclid=CNjXnayo0b0CFROVfgodKgsA3A#.U0QkZfldV8E. 4. Good to know! Also turn the black dial to Off. and found a guy that removed the board allowing the capacitors to discharge fully, (just by removing the board). Good info here, had 4 flashes, remove white valve cover after lighting pilot, place a jumper wire across two posts that were right side top , pilot quit, waited, relit pilot, turn gas control to low, main burner lit. Ive been keeping an eye on the heater ever since installing, so I was able to notice this. After the pilot heats the thermopile, and the LED blinks, I released the Red knob but the pilot would not stay on. I have a red knob with green LED, and white cover. And everybody wonders why plumbers charge what they do. I have the exact electronic gas valve unit on my Whirlpool water heater I purchased 3 years ago. Resetting the #$%@!! When I screw the gas adapter, just half way in the screw, the housing cracked. Some of us had moved the controller dial through its full range and subsequently the controller failed with the 4 code. Looking for a new appliance retailer who values its customers. It is a Honeywell Reliance 9007884 Series 300. The pilot on my waterheater went out over night. Working fine. Plug the cord back in Because, when they shop at Lowes (and other DIY stores), people dont always, every time, ask them, You carry repair parts for this, right? Im going to take everyone elses lead and call for a replacement valve. I have 2 bad Gas valves that i tried this on. This Honeywell gas control has been intermittent every few months, but i was always able to restart until this week. The dreaded 4 red flashes. Right, my tank is just over 2 years old the number of posts here, Honeywell would do well to consider a recall and redesign. I took the circuit board completely out of the unit and let it sit for about an hour. The note is just a comment I know it really does not apply to your situation. This is the second time I have had the dreaded four blink failure in a 30 Gal. THIS METHOD WORKS!!! When I came back to check the water heater, I saw that the light was flashing normally. > Isnt there any way to tell the gas valve to [reset the error condition]? My new controller has a white blinking LED that will not reset. not understanding this. I have NEVER had a thermostat unit fail in 35 years of owning houses. i called whirlpool(1877-817-6750), they are sending me the valve free of charge, but its gonna take a couple days to get here. Resetting the #$%@!! i did just what you described and my water heater is finally on. Honeywell said it is my fault because I failed to drain the sediment. The light started the all is good single blink and the furnace fired up. My tank is fed solar preheated water, and so far, that water has been warm enough that the main propane burner has never fired with the thermostat set to LOW, so I was just curious. Now when the pilot starts and the pilot valve pulls in, and the status light starts blinking, look at the code. Start the pilot by moving the knob to 6 oclock and press it in to start the gas and press the piezo starter button on the cover (you have to press the button between two fingers so it will not pop out of the cover it is possible to get shocked so maybe use a glove) several times until it lights. Be sure the tank is flushed as much as possible. Pulled off the cover with the dial still on pilot position the pilot light died and the light didnt flash. So I called and paid the $30 to get a new one delivered the day after Christmas. Note which color is on which side. With 4 flashes, I unplugged the little cable for about 10 minutes and replugged in and got 7 flashes, but after another 10 minutes or so, it reverted to 1 flash and fired up. Thank you so much!!! Thanks to your solution I will have hot water until the replacement value arrives. I too thought no big deal to turn my water heater up ONE NOTCH!!! detected: When this happens after the four flashes, it seems like this is saying something like, There has been a fault detected, and there is no fault any more. In other words, there was a fault and it went away. Because of these differences, I would recommend NOT to only replace the board, but to replace everything! day installed it i had bad problems to lite, i called Co. they asked if a professional installed it, i told tech ive installed over 15 water heaters & never had this type of trouble, he kind of said that since im not a pro-with licence thats why its not lighting, i told him i didnt like this valve sytem & all 15 water with the old school red dial out lasted the 9 yr some worked till 12 years & why would i ever give $400 to install something i could do & i do know what Im doing just that this system not working at all, i got it 3 years & I got one of the lucky ones, the (2nd one)was built 07/20/2015 i got a call Fri 29th,16 my tenant said water heater stopped working & i had showed him how tom lite it in case im not around & it turns off, he tried many times, depress 1 1/2, 2 min, 3 min & nothing, i got a chance to look into it & i had assumed E-Z fix 5 min ill have it & running, wrong spent hour doing everything instructions had, i asked my tennat at what temp he had it on, he said a lil past the letyter (A) when i installed it i had told him never pass (A) i remember a friend who owns several homes (7) & he told me many nitemare stories of the Honeywell Valve status lite (poop)he was dealing with 7 faulty valves had to pay hotel 3-5 days while they ship parts, even then the water heater co. diagnosed problem wrong, he said a couple times they told him it was the thermopile that was causing pilot lite not to stay on, he waited for part, ordered the Valve although it had warranty but it didnt cover the wasted time, days & hotel for his tenants, but he some how found on his own that setting those types pass the letter (A) the water heater will over heat, thats whats going on with me, i checked everything spark good, pilot lights well but doesnt stay on & the status lite doesnt come on at all, its like its dead, so i called Co. tech guy told me oh thats an E-Z one & no brainner its your thermopile well let me tell my tenants 4 adults 3 teenagers of how E-Z theyll have it for 4 days without hot water you certified (DA=dumb ass)i still didnt feel good about that, i called my friend & my friend said ill bet you a $100 its going to be the thermo pile, call m back & have them send you new Valve & get on YouTube & sites to get help, these sites are extremely helpful, you save money, time, days waiting for part & most likely youll get wrong diagnosed, so Im gearing up & ready to get hot water for my tenants, its a rotten dirty shame that so many people have gotten ripped off by honeywell & no law suits for intentionally selling theyre valves to the water heater makers they too are at fault, at least those of us that can tinker with things are able to FIY i feel for the people who have get a licence person to install, then several months later have the valve burn out, call Co. then pro to install wrong part, wait more days for correct one ? Wish you had shown a pic of the screwdriver touching the 2 posts. By the way, while searching for more information when this first came up for me, I found one website which had these controllers for sale for $99.00. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use, in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion, well for water temperature sensing. The thermal switch on the hot water heater was broken. I did the upper left/upper right. I closed the cover again and lit the pilot again. Had to do it twice for it to reset. Just for reference THISpicture shows the wire that attaches to the control board. Thanks again to all. Well my tank is 15 months old and it is giving the 4 flash death sign, called everywhere for parts, can only get from Whirlpool and 3 days later. Wait a minute to be sure, then turn the knob to off, and disconnect (the RED and WHITE power leads first) everything and reassemble the controller normally and start it back up. What number did you call? The pilot would stay lit for a while and then go out with a code 2 blink. Make an offer: Pre-owned. Instead, the tank becomes unusable. Sears is charging $181.64. Thanks so much. Going to researching flushing and cleaning the tank for good maintenance. TheCrankyTenants worked for me. Follow these warnings exactly: 1. If that didnt work, or if you already have the new valve and prefer the slightly simpler approach, proceed as follows. So are you saying that you got yours from the MFR? contact customer service and see . Sediment in the bottom of a tank reduces efficient heat transfer from the heat source (gas or electric) to the water by putting a layer of less conductive minerals between the two. Everything is good. What the gas pressure has to do with a faulty temperature sensor is a mystery to me, and perhaps just part of their damage control process to delay things. F-ING A BRA! Resideo WT8840B1500 - WT8840 Water Heater Gas Valve Control, NG - 2" Spud, 5" W.C.- WATER HEATER GAS VALVE, STANDING PILOT WITH PIEZO, SETPOINT 55-155F, SPUD LENGTH = 2", BRACKET= CENTERED, REGULATOR SETTING= 5" W.C., GAS TYPE=NATURAL GAS <br><br> The WT8840 series is the Water Heater Control for trade use to replace WV8840 valves used in AO Smith and Bradford White Water Heaters. Ive been reading through all this information, but other than learning the honeywell unit is a POS, I havent figured out my problem. Look at a site like http://hometips.me/Mar/How-to-test-and-replace-Honeywell-gas-control-valve.pdf on how to remove the Controller circuit board (one screw and 3 tabs) and black control knob ( lean it to the side and it will pop out. https://www.flickr.com/photos/86570218@N06/17486404251. Thanks a bunch! Much obliged. It is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. Will most likely do the control board swap. Thx loreleaf for the post and pics. If the reset procedure needs to be repeated, I figure it can easily be done in less than 10 minutes. My unit was only 3 years old! Tug gently, away from the board, to unplug the plug. Be sure to get the Yellow gas rated teflon tape and/or no. save delay . I really dont need those (collective) idiots telling me what is safe and what is not. Manufactured by Honeywell. So dont give up, it does work and Im guessing that these methods will work on 100% of the failed controllers if you follow the steps to a T with the knowledge that you may have to do it more than one or two times before it takes and clears the fault code. Should I replace the Temperature sensor? Installed it today. Im pretty sure the temp is infinitely adjustable, the marks are there as a reference. Atleast it did for me. I called Whirlpool customer service, got the replacement valve for $30 cost of the shipment. Nothing on the shelf that looked like the Honeywell. Great writeup! If you cant get the pilot lit, the thermopile that generates the .75 volt power to the controller will not be generating any power either. Pilot is lit but the led will not blink red at all it, how to reset this valve. I dont know, but I do know you need to get the sediment out of there in any case, so you might as well try it. The reason I got a new WH was so there would be no problems! In the meantime I figured the shutoff valve to the WH was not working then started to leak! Thanks Randy. Of Course I am here because I got a call from my mother in-law that they had no hot water on the their brand new Water Heater. Thanks again. This changes to red flash code when there is an abnormal condition. great write up, but I cant find this part anywhere. Some points to consider: 1. Check closely to see if you have a spark. First off, thank you for this article and thread. First, the Pilot has to be able to stay lit on its own and a fault blinks on the controller to continue. While I didnt have any leaks, I was sweating bullets during the testing and first fire up of the furnace. Then once it started running went to one blink. Here is what I did with pictures to solve this issue. Found three capacitors (bigger one in the middle and the other two towards one of the corners, each is mainly silver with a black small/minor segment ) and shorted all three, replaced unit and relit the pilot light, but 4 flashes still the problem. Wish me luck tomorrow! Tonight I came home to the 4 blink code again No problem Ill just reset it one more time to get us through showers tonight and replace it tomorrow. Water Heater Gas Control Valve For Honeywell Whirlpool WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042. This is the fourth time in 3 years the control has died. I understand that the Honeywell product is in recall. I am not sure if holding the temperature button in is electronic or mechanically acts on the pilot valve (would hope the latter). started getting 7 blinks, felt hopeful, turned it to hot and heard the burner come on. These sensors, provide the fail-safe mechanism through which the, temperature control as well as water temperature. my light is not blinking the pilot will light but the burner wont come on so i called whirlpool; and they said i had on warranty as we had stated on the warranty that we put it in the bathroom the heater is just now 3 years old,,, so i told her that it was not in the bathroom it was outside and that it had been installed in a shed that got storm damaged so we had to remove the shed and that my husband being 70 had had some medical issues and he had not been able to get the new shed over it but that had put a small cover around it but that wasnt real worried about the warranty i just want to fix it. i was still under warranty so the valve was free less $30 overnight shipping. I am getting the 7 flashes 3 second pause. Quality was very bad. Got the ominous 4 flash a couple days ago after turning heat up too high. WV4262E1107 it has a much larger board and connects a bit different. If you need to, stick the screwdriver in from below to lever them loose. Would appreciate any info on fixing the WHITE Light Gas valve. At this point the flashing light went to the Heartbeat flash (call for heat), the exhaust flap opened and the ignitor lit the burner. Was sent a new one with a bad (stuck) push button sparker. I used sealant on all the piping going into the valve assembly however I used teflon tape for the screwing portion of the assembly that goes into the tank and touches water. I followed your instructions to clear the fault and they worked fine. We have a drought in CA and losing 100 gallons (2 TANKS) of water every six months isnt backbreaking, but it sure is a pain that should not be in the design. repeat steps gas valve.. Resetting the #$%@!! This piece of junk is only 13 months old. (I realize this is way after the fact but just adding some personal experience) thanks for all the details you put in it. Cal. Called for a replacement through AOS Smith and in the meantime followed Davids How to un-fault a controller mission with success. Shipping to: 98837. Thank you Pioneers, Thank you Tyler. You cannot find the old fashion w/heaters that you could lite and forget it. Let people know on FB and other places that these tanks are equipped with a flawed Gas Control Valve. After removing the controller board and the wires, I had to reattach it to light the pilot light. Still working after these few months? (White on the right and RED on the left as they would be with the cover on). Slide the power switch off. Light the pilot. mwa-ha-ha-ha! They have a manual shut off. I cant believe this actually worked!!! Hope this information helps! I shorted every connection on the board to the only connection marked GND rather than wait the hour. The thing is less then a week old!! I must say the internet is a life saver for problems like these. It took a while but I hope it is sufficient to extend the life of the valve. I guess I will try tomorrow but I would appreciate any help anyone can offer me. I really did not want to mess with wires inside so extremely glad this works for this controller. This WORKS! Can you let me know if your WH is still working? WV8840B1109 has been discontinued Discontinued January 3, 2020 This product was discontinued by the manufacturer. water heater $500-$800, pro lic installer $400 $30-$$60 shipping cost for Valve. I have a state water heater (which are made by A.O. Once you have selected the product category you are interested in, the contact information for sales related questions and technical product related questions will display . Mine is the 1109 and has no posts. Tried the reset a bunch of times but could not get it to stop the 4 flashes. Now the replacement goes on the fritz. Put it all back together and re-sealed the gasket with red (high temperature) RTV gasket sealer. I cant believe they sent me a dud. After reading through everything in both Cranky and DBs posts a couple more times, finding a 9v battery and making a second jumper wire to try the battery procedure described in DBs post, I went back to the unit, turned the gas supply back on and re-lit the pilot, when BINGO! The GE people walked me through a reset process over the phone and it fired right up. Slide the power switch on After a minute or so the flashes should change to just one flash every three seconds or so. READ THEIR INSTRUCTIONS A FEW TIMES OVER! I have no status light. Deliberately, maliciously, and probably under the pretense of safety. Voltage Maximum: 850 mV dc, open circuit. Okay. If you need to look at the back to see how the tabs are arranged, look at the new valve. After days re-seating all the wires I found that cleaning the lint out of the cage where the main gas flex tube enters an air tunnel leading to the main burner about 6 inches below the white cover fixed it. What is top left pin and the top right pin you arereferring to, while holdingcircuit board still inside the controllerassembly and facing towards me which corner are youreferring to, can you please give me some details or a picture thatwould be great. I just frankenvalved my unit last night and it is working like a charm! THANK YOU! Did you call Honeywell directly? taken care of on my own. 1: Remove the cover (it just snaps on & off with out tools on mine), 2: Unplug the three wire connector on the top-back of the circuit-board (no need to remove it from the cover so no tools required). Remove, Element, Stubborn. Model U1######## water heater natural gas, 30 gallon. We are dealing with possible gas leak & explosion here guys! Now, instead of the 4-blink I had a seven blink. This was when I discovered this thread and prepared to contact Rheem since the heater is brand new. Other suggestions? Do not loose the spring under it! I pulled the cover yesterday , left every thing hooked up. Wow, amazing! Water heater runs both water AND heating in the home 0 degrees in Denver right now! Rheem, to their credit, is overnight shipping a new sensor to replace the bad one in the new Home Depot Rheem that I installed yesterday. worked for me. Why doesnt Lowes carry repair parts for the water heaters they sell? I am extremely grateful for this information! Why wont the cops shut Whirlpool down? my water heater pilot light went out. I told her I would, but more I think about it, F that! Unplug the power cord for 20 seconds Although the reset procedures in this thread are obviously great and simple workarounds to the problem of resetting this damn valve, I also wonder if there may be some secondary interlock linked to the gas pressure which would cause the valve to retain an error condition as long as it is detecting gas pressure? and see what the thermostat looks like). In particular, if you havent drained the sediment off the bottom of the tank, do that first. As for Kenmore and Sears they would send a replacement part our for $185.00 and 2-5 days delivery or since the part is under warranty I could pay $79.00 and wait for a service appointment, then wait for the replacement part to be shipped for me to install. This one broke after less that 1 year. Also remove heat sensor to check possible problem, no issue. Getting some hugs and kisses from the wife. Could only see me in the eveningReading about what you guys have done. Ive tried everything trying to reset it , although it seems the flame is on . I bought a Rheem water heater from Home Depot, it had this Honeywell valve on it. If peoples replacement valves with the white indicator lights dont fail about the same rate as the old ones, maybe Honeywell has resolved the issue. I do not think you have the same honeywell control that this website is discussing, there is no power switch or power cord. Mineral buildup on the valves temp tensor cap the metal part that sticks into the tank could cause the high limit situation by delaying the rate at which true water temperature reaches the thermal sensor. And Im paying $30 for a part I shouldnt be replacing? As info only for the less mechanical people out there, if you lay down on your back and look through the sight glass window, it makes lighting your pilot very easy. The main gas valve will open and the burner will fire up (If is does not fire up, it means the pilot was not lit and you should disconnect the battery and start over when the gas clears). Plus the cost of the above repairs. Although the part is covered under warranty, they will not just send a replacement. Checked the wiring. would encourage you to waste the money on a new part. I have drained the tank twice and in both cases I got virtually NO SEDIMENT out of my water heater. The Deep End is a steampunk intrigue with plenty of reprehensible characters, plots, poisoned stabby things, and a murder mystery where the sleuth has to suspect herself. thank u CT. U and DB are $$ saversfor now anyway..LOL! Its definitely a hassle rigging up the battery setup, but I cannot complain with the results. Normally, you just need to dump a gallon or two at the most to get the sentiment out of the bottom of the tank. Some people said touching the 2 top posts and you said top right and bottom one. I tried all the solutions that people had suggested and still had the 4 blink problem. Mwa-ha-ha-ha! I will now start flushing sediment every quarter instead of annually. free! Thanks a lot guys for these posts. I am calling the plumber who installed it. Gas Valves & Controls. Thanks for the above suggestions. : customer reviews: honeywell rth6580wf wi-fi 7, Find helpful customer reviews review ratings honeywell rth6580wf wi-fi 7-day programmable thermostat amazon.. read honest unbiased product reviews. But the whole process raises a couple of questions in m y mind. The posts are located on the valve unit that remains attached to the heater after you remove the cover. It does have all of the same issues and the dreaded 4 flashes of death. The original red light gas valve broke after 2 years. So far, so good but was looking up things that could go wrong and found this page. This procedure worked like a charm. Intelligent designers would program a fault reset capability after the water temperature drops to a safe point, like say 170 degrees. I got pretty bitter there thinking about it. Turn the temp knob down to VAC (lowest setting for vacation) Rey and the Magic Amulet is a fantasy for younger readers. WV8840B1109 Gas Valve for Honeywell Whirlpool Water Heaters - WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042 No reviews $42999 FREE delivery Feb 27 - Mar 2 Or fastest delivery Feb 24 - 28 Small Business BW Technologies Yellow GasAlertMax XT II Portable Combustible Gas, Carbon Monoxide, Hydrogen Sulphide and Oxygen Monitor with Rechargeable Battery No reviews You can open up both the old and replacement valve, and just swap the fronts of the valves, containing the recalcitrant circuit board, leaving the back part that connects to the gas pipes in place. Well, tried this with TWO circuit boards (one was original w/red LED, the second was replacement w/white LED). 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